April 5, 2026

#5 Snickers in the Trees, Wilma in the Bags & Sam's 11-Year Journey Home

#5 Snickers in the Trees, Wilma in the Bags & Sam's 11-Year Journey Home
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Season 1

Episode 5 kicks off with a chaotic clinic flashback , a cat named Snickers bolts into the dark woods after a vet visit and ends up in a tree for the night before anyone could catch him. We talk about Oscar, a baby possum who spent the night in the kitchen playing dead while the Vet Tech's mom tried to feed him carrots. We dig into the top 10 conditions vets treated dogs and cats for in 2025 , skin allergies have held the number one spot for dogs for 15 years running,

We learned that Wilma really loves hamburger....raw hamburger that is and Alice, our AI co-host confirms whether Wilma's breed and those paddle-shaped paws really were bred for hunting badgers. The conversation turns to emerging pet tech trends in the form of vet telehealth, wearable health monitors, and AI facial recognition for tracking animal pain, along with a candid discussion on pet insurance and who it actually helps.

We cover the Two and Two (two stories that'll make your blood boil and two that'll restore your faith.) A Connecticut man faces charges for a violent on-camera dog attack tied to a domestic violence case, a dog named Rocky is joyfully reunited with his owner after 43 days lost in the Colorado wilderness, a disturbing Washington State case reveals two cats killed under suspicious circumstances, and in the feel-good finale, a woman in South Carolina is reunited with her cat Sam , 11 years after he went missing .... all because of a microchip. This week's reminder: chip your pets !

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Episode five, incoming.

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You ready?

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I'm ready.

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Let's get it.

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And here we go.

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This is Dad and the Vet Tech Podcast, Episode 5.

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I am the Dad, and you are The Vet Tech.

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You are the Vet Tech.

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Well, since our last episode, we did get some good feedback with people liking some of the clinic cases you were talking about.

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And before I ask you for any others, I thought of one thing that just makes me laugh.

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Do you remember the time when you were brand new?

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You just got out of college, you were just starting the clinic, or somewhere in between there, and you called and said, Hey, I'm gonna be late.

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And I'm sitting here thinking, wow, she's already scrubbed in, she's doing surgery and whatnot.

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But but you ended up in a full-blown woodland search for a cat, right?

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I guess I do remember that.

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I think I was an assistant then.

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But still, I did end up in a search party for a cat.

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So didn't the clinic treat a cat?

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And upon the transfer of that cat back to the owner, somehow, some way when they were walking out the front door, the cat got loose and took off.

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Yes.

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And somehow in and around your clinic ended up in like this big wooded area.

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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Yeah, we transferred them.

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They didn't want us to put the cat in the carrier.

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They just wanted to hold them to the car.

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Oh man.

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And we're like, no, we'll put it in the carrier, and then they opened the carrier and the cat.

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Gone.

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Yeah, he was gone.

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What was that cat's name?

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Snickers or something?

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Snickers.

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Snickers.

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Snickers is gone.

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Never forget that one.

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We got one running.

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Snickers is out.

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Apparently behind the.

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And it was dark out, right?

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It was dark, yeah.

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Or was it light and then turned dark while you're out there in the big surface?

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It might have been that.

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It might have been like dusk and then into dark.

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I guess it's not.

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It was a dark cat.

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Did it climb a tree, I remember you saying?

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Yeah, we looked up and we saw him in in like the tree on a branch, just sitting and watching it.

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What were the owners doing?

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Snickers, come here.

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Like he was a dog.

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Was you think Snickers was just scared or had had enough of it all?

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No, I think he was just scared.

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But after a while, I mean you were you didn't get home till very late, which I thought about that.

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That's it's really not on the clinic at that point, right?

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Because the transfer was made back over safely in a pet carrier.

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Right.

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They just happened to open the pet carrier door.

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They did not want Snickers riding in the crate on the way home.

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But boy, we got a runner and off it goes.

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Yep.

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Do you remember how it did it just come down from the tree, or how did it how did you end up getting it?

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I think it took like a day or so and they captured him.

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It was in the woods for a day.

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So you came home and that cat was still in the woods?

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I believe so.

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Holy cow.

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Yeah.

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I didn't know that.

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I I thought somehow, somehow, you got the cat that night.

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I didn't realize old Snickers.

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I think they left some food down with a trap in trapped.

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Well, you know how that would that would work out for us.

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I remember your mom trying to get a chipmunk that was just raisin came here to relocate.

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And apparently you're not supposed to relocate them.

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We found out later.

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But she caught more than a chipmunk.

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Yes, she did.

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So she says, Hey, I've got something in the trap.

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Oh, okay.

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You got the chipmunk?

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Well, where are we gonna put him so he can have a happy life afterward?

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It's not a chipmunk, she says.

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What do you mean?

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What did you catch?

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I'm thinking skunk, raccoon, you name it.

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It was a baby possum.

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Yep.

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And she brought it in the house.

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It's still in the cage, it's on the bar, and I'm looking at it and she's already named it.

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She named it Oscar.

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Yeah, I remember it.

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She says, I don't think he's doing very well because he's not moving.

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It's a possum.

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That's what they do.

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They play dead.

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Literally.

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He's scared.

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She was fooled.

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She said, I think he's cold.

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He's not moving.

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He's a possum.

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Possums run cold.

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Anyway, it took me a little bit to talk her into her senses and just let Oscar now free to roam and just take off.

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So that was probably our one and only experience with one of those save a save a heart trap.

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Save a heart trap, right?

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He was cute.

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Can a possum be cute?

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Yes.

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I think so.

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I do know that a lot of people they don't like possums for whatever reason because they're ugly and I don't know.

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There's a whole bunch of things.

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But they don't get rabies, right?

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No.

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They're too cold.

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They're too cold-blooded to get them.

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They eat ticks, right?

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They do.

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Yeah.

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So that's a to me, that's a good thing, but they are so ugly though.

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They're so cute.

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And they hiss at you.

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They do hiss, but they'll they'll never bite you.

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I mean, I guess you can never say never, but I don't know.

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You ever see those teeth where they're, you know, somebody picks one up and they're just people bring in hurt possums to work all the time.

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Now in her defense, that Oscar never did any of that.

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He just played dead.

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Like I'm dead.

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Uh bring me outside and let me go.

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So uh but I think he spent the night in the house.

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Yeah, probably.

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In the cage.

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I think I was in school then.

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What did she try feeding it a banana or something?

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Yeah, and she likes to feed or like to feed it carrots.

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Oh my god.

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Yeah, I finally got that thing out of the house.

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But and as far as I know, Oscar was done playing dead, and he's running in a big field, and he's all happy.

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Anyway, so what's been up with the clinic?

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I haven't heard any crazy stories.

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We haven't talked about too much.

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Well, of course, we you know, from last week to this week, right?

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Things have been pretty routine.

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Yeah, pretty routine.

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Like what's root what's routine?

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Like ear cleanings, UTIs.

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Ear cleanings.

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People bring their pets to like an emergency clinic for ear cleanings?

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Oh, okay.

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Uh like ear infections, ear hematomas.

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Well, that I get.

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By ear hematoma, are you talking about where they remember Wilma had uh one floppy ear that was three times the size?

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She had a big inflamed ear.

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Yeah.

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But I don't think it ever led to ear hematoma.

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So ear hematomas, that's like filled with blood.

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What is that exactly?

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Yeah, that's basically what it is.

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It's where when their ears are kind of itchy and they keep flapping their ears, the small little blood vessels inside them, inside the ears.

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Oh, so that's exactly what Wilma had.

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Yes.

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Remember, she kept well, she flaps her ears like she's gonna take off in a helicopter anyway.

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It is the loudest, especially in the middle of the night, most annoying thing ever.

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You literally just hear it like a helicopter.

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So she was doing that, and then must have caused an injury to one of her ears because I remember she went to the clinic, she came home with like a hairband on or something.

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Yeah, a no-flap ear wrap she had.

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It was the cutest thing you ever saw.

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She was so cute.

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She looked like an anteater.

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Absolutely hated it.

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She did she did look like an ant-eater, but she hated that thing.

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Because it kept her ears, so you can't flap them.

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Yeah.

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But that didn't stop her from doing her head.

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Looked like she was in a sock.

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Yeah, it didn't take very long either for that to go away.

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I don't know if she didn't have a full hematoma.

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I think she had the start of one.

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Preventively put that on.

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If that's the start of one, that thing was still three times the size.

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Like one ear was just it almost looked like a pillow.

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Yeah.

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So for routine, I did see an article.

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I don't know if you saw it.

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It was on the top conditions vets see dogs and cats for.

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They tallied them up for last year in 2025.

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So these were listed as acute disease, which is short-lived, I guess, and it's expected to be resolved within just a couple days or less.

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But they did rank them out.

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Number one, skin allergies.

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We can certainly relate with that.

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We had German Shepherds and Tsar.

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Well, they had autoimmune.

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You know that.

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It's in a different episode, but they definitely had that.

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Number two was gastroenteritis.

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Exactly.

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I was just about to say that.

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That's what, just gut issues?

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Yeah, it's just inflammation in the GI tract.

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Number three, I can't pronounce.

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Maybe you can.

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I don't know what is it.

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Artitis externa.

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And that is what?

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Swimmer's ear.

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Oh, okay.

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Okay.

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So just fluid in the osteoarthritis.

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I obviously I think I know what that is.

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That's just that that goes to what Snoop Dogg was in the last episode.

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Yeah, it does.

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Can't walk, kind of walk crooked.

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Like a bent frame.

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Trauma, like that could be anything.

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Yeah.

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Number six, dental disease.

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Number seven, urinary tract infection.

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Valvular heart disease.

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Number eight.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Valvular heart disease.

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Can't just be heart disease.

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You gotta try to make it say something different.

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Number nine, liver disease, and number ten, seizures.

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Which that's new.

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Seizures?

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It says that it's uh new on the list.

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Oh, new.

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Well, you they put a tick collar on them.

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Counterfeit tick collar we talked about in the last episode.

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So for cats you would think it'd be very similar, but the number one is that gastro what is it?

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Gastroenteritis.

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Exactly, just on the tip of my tongue.

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Number two, urinary tract infection.

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That's that's common in all animals, apparently.

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Kidney failure, dental disease, osteoarthritis, hyperthyroid disease, diabetes, what?

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Melitis.

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I don't know if that's actually how you pronounce it.

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Okay, I don't even know what that is, other than diabetes.

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Some people say diabetes.

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Diabetes.

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Diabetes.

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Respiratory infection, inflammatory bowel disease, and skin allergies.

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That sounds like a real fun time.

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Yeah.

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And later on in that article, it says that for the number one spot for dogs for last year, that has been the number one spot in the past 15 years in a row, and that is the itch.

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Skin problems.

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That'll do it.

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Apparently, there's decades of uh data that say allergic disease showing up in skin and or ears is the number one reason dogs go and see veterinarians.

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Interesting.

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It also says that immune confusion disease, which is where they have a wild overreaction to normal things like allergies to a flea bite, a bite of chicken.

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What?

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A bite of chicken.

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That's not a chicken biting them.

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That's them being allergic to the chicken.

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Yeah.

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Well, the way they write that, a bite of chicken.

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Okay.

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Grasses, trees, pollen, etc.

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It's funny that so many people that we know have allergies to exactly that grasses, trees, pollen, stuff like that, that that can affect your dogs and cats as well.

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Right.

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Just ask Stella.

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What do you mean?

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Last time a few weeks ago, I had to bring her to the vets because she had a sniffle because she was outside.

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And you think that that was for the allergies?

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Yeah, I think she had allergies and the stress of having allergies caused a virus.

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So she's never been outside, obviously.

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Right.

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She's not an outdoor cat.

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No.

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Even though sometimes she pretends to.

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Because lately, I know you know this.

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If you happen to open the door, she makes a bolt for the door.

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And then next thing you know, she's outside.

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Luckily, she doesn't go anywhere because she's like into another realm of a world.

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She's just kind of looking around, her eyes get really big.

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And I picked her up the other day and I said, You are not an outdoor cat, just so you know.

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Made her look at me.

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Stella, you are not an outdoor cat.

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You may think you're an outdoor cat, but you are not an outdoor cat.

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And her little heart was beating so fast, I could feel like excited to be out there.

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Crazy.

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She goes outside like with a harness and a leash because I'm that kind of cat mom.

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But listen, you get the cat out there and she likes it.

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I just could never imagine her running away.

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Well, you also know that a couple of times I see your mom in the backyard and she's holding the cat, right?

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And she's just walking around to like the different flowers.

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Yeah.

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And she lets her touch the tree and all of this.

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So one day she comes in and I'm she looks a little flustered and she's barely hanging on to Stella.

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I said, What is going on?

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She got a little spooked and she scratched my neck.

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I said, Well, put her down.

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She is not an outdoor cat.

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So something spooked her.

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I don't know what it was, but she was hanging on your mother's neck for for all she was worth, and she was afraid she was gonna get down and be spooked and be gone.

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Right.

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Oh, I wanted to tell you too, the other day, your mom had brought in a couple of grocery bags, just two, and she likes to use canvas bags because she packs those suckers so full.

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Yeah, she does.

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You gotta be a weightlifter to bring them in.

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So she's bringing them in.

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It's probably she doesn't put them on the bar because she can't lift them up there.

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Right.

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So she just sets them down.

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Because she packs them with cans or whatever she's getting.

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She sets them down, she goes to take her coat off.

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I'm in the living room, and you know when Wilma gets in trouble, because all of a sudden you'll hear this.

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Wilma!

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Yeah, that's exactly what it's like.

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Wilma! Yep.

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She carries that out, and you know.

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Uh-oh.

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But then you can hear Wilma's nails like boogieing out of there, like click, click, click, click, click, click.

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So I get up, I'm kind of chuckling, I'm like, what happened?

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Well, look.

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I look down and she had a package of fresh hamburger.

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Uh-huh.

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Well, Wilm saw that and just took a huge bite right out of the hamburger, through the plastic at all.

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And was going back for seconds when your mother came out.

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So now we've got this package of hamburger with a big wiener dog bite in it.

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And Wilma's slinking around.

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And then so I see her down the end of the hall, and I'm like, what did you do?

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And she's got that little wiggle in her tail's going like, Am I gonna get in trouble?

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The next thing you know, she's gone.

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She's hiding under the bed.

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Under the bed.

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I didn't see her for a while, but your mom was so mad.

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And of course, you know, you freak out because dog's mouth at the hamburger, so she's cutting out a section.

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She doesn't want to throw all the hamburger.

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It was a whole thing.

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Oh my god.

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Yeah, that's Wilma for you.

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Totally Wilma.

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And then, I don't know, as it went on, I I thought it was kind of funny.

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I mean, she's a dog.

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That's what she's supposed to do.

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She's got the tiny pumps.

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It was on the floor.

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It was on the floor.

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It was in reach.

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She's a foot and a half, if that, from the ground up.

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And you put that right in front of her.

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She cannot help herself.

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No, she eats everything.

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A lot of times your mom comes home, she's got that little snack pack that she brings, and she'll just, again, she sets her bag down, takes her coat off, does her thing, and then you'll hear this.

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You're like, uh-oh.

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Wilma's in the bag.

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It's whatever.

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It doesn't matter what it is.

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It can be candy, it can be chocolate, it can be tic-tacks, chapstick.

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She loves chapstick.

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She chews all that up.

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But that's what you hear is the little, the little rustling, and you're like, uh-oh.

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Yep.

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And then you hear it, Wilma.

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Well, and you know what else your mom told me?

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With our last episode, she said, um, do you know that her paws I saw on TikTok?

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That her paws are like that for digging in tunnels.

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Oh my gosh.

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Because she said that back in the day, like the early 1800s, they were bred for hunting badgers.

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They were.

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Seriously?

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Yeah.

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You know what I think I'm gonna do?

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I'm gonna go to Alice, our digital co-host, and ask her this just to see what she says.

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She's gotta think we're crazy, but let me try to dial her up.

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Hey, Alice, we're live on episode five of Dad Navette Tech.

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Got a question for you.

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Don't know why I said it that way.

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Hey, no worries at all.

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I'm ready for your question.

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Just let me know what you need help with and we'll dive right in.

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So, as you know, we have a dash hound.

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What are they called?

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Dachshunds?

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Wiener sis?

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Yep.

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All right.

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We have a wiener dog named Wilma.

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And last episode we were talking about the way that their feet are.

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They look like squirrel feet to me and they kind of bulge out to the sides when she walks.

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Yeah, I remember that.

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Dachshunds do have those little short legs and those tiny paws that kind of spread out.

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What's on your mind?

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Are you noticing something new or trying to help her with some foot comfort?

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No, no.

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The vet tech's mom said, Hey, I saw on TikTok that actually they were bred this way because they would hunt badgers and they would dig in the tunnels.

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And I'm just trying to see, is that a crazy TikTok myth or what?

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Yes, you're right.

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Dachshunds were indeed bred for tunneling.

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Their front paws are wide and paddle-shaped, which help them dig, and their short, strong legs let them move easily in tight burrows.

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So it's not just a TikTok myth.

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This is part of their original purpose.

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Holy cow.

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Thanks, Alice.

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Score one for the vet tech's mom.

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Seriously.

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She's on TikTok, she got it right.

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She's not kidding.

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It's been a whole thing with with Wilma.

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You know that.

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When when we first got her, did we did I ever tell the story when we first got her and I was going to work?

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No.

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So I'm driving to work.

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I pull out of the garage.

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I'm headed down the street and I'm headed to work.

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I'm not thinking anything of it.

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Nine times out of ten, I'll always look in the mirrors or whatever.

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So I get, I don't know, it must have been 30 seconds, maybe a minute.

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I get a frantic phone call from your mother.

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She's completely out of breath.

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And I'm like, what is going on?

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Like, did I leave and somebody break in the house?

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That's the way she's breathing and just going nuts.

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She do you have Wilma?

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Uh, no, I'm headed to work.

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But she, I I tried to catch her.

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She's all the way down the street chasing your car.

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Yeah.

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I'm like, well, how the hell did she get out of the house?

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She ran out of the house, heard my car, and literally chased me.

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Yeah, she did.

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We saw it on the cameras after.

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So fast.

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It is both heartbreaking and hilarious at the same time.

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It wasn't hilarious at the time because I turned around immediately.

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I couldn't find her.

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She was probably a half a mile away in somebody's backyard.

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We found her after about an hour.

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Yeah.

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We knew then that everything with Wilma was gonna be an adventure.

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Oh yes.

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And boy, has it ever.

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Crazy.

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I never saw her.

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I always look in the mirror and it just, you know, you're headed to work, you're doing your.

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But she's also very small, so I don't even know if you did look in your mirror, you'd see her.

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She is.

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Your mom said she was fast.

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And she was super skinny back then.

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Your mom or the dog?

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The dog.

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If your mom listens to this now, we're both in trouble.

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That'll be the end of it.

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No, you're right.

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Wilma was she was tiny.

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Yeah, she was super tiny.

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But she was she was fast.

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Yeah, she was.

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Poor Wilma.

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One other thing I saw, maybe you saw it, or maybe we talked about it.

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I'm not sure.

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Is vet telehealth?

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Have you seen this?

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Yeah, I've seen it.

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Is it is that a thing?

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It is it's the thing.

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Help me understand this then.

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Is it like you know how in person now people instead of and I I I don't know if I'd be one of these people, but I I don't like nobody likes going to the doctor.

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Some people do, I don't.

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But they you can call up and have a telephone call or a telecall or whatever they call that with your doctor, and now they're expanding that or already have to pet health, right?

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Yeah.

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It's weird in a way, isn't it?

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It is pretty weird.

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I don't know.

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If I have if my dog isn't feeling well or has a problem, and then I get on a Zoom call with a veterinarian or whatever and say, Hey, I think Sparky's got an abdomen problem.

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Right.

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How can they properly, without doing any testing or anything like that, how can they properly diagnose the dog?

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Right.

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That's that's the whole kind of controversy towards it.

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You know, I I understand, like, if you have like if Sparky's got this big rash and you need a cream or something like that, right?

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If you in the right lighting, or you know, you have a good webcam or however you're doing it, the veterinarian can see and say, All right, I know exactly what this is.

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I'm gonna prescribe you this, that, the other.

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Right.

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And save a trip in there.

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I I get to see if it works and then if not, go to your regular vet, I guess.

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Maybe.

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Yeah, maybe there's a maybe there's a thing for it.

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You gotta think like this job is based on hands-on, so doing their physical exam, it's all based on them having their hands on the animal.

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I also saw that there's a thing where there's wearable pet health monitors, kind of like a uh Fitbit for your dog.

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I have never seen that.

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I don't understand what kind of data you would get.

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Can you imagine putting a Fitbit on Wilma?

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No.

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Think of it this way: this is the way I'm thinking of it.

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So I have a dog.

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I really I used to have a dog named Sparky.

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I don't know if you know that when I was a kid.

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Sparky's gotta lose some weight.

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Sparky's gotten a little chunky.

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Like Wilma.

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Kind of like Wilma, no fat-shaving Wilm.

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So you want to get that dog some exercise.

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You've got this health monitor that is now somehow on the dog, which is all well and good.

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You can count, I don't know how you count steps with four paws, but there's got to be a way or a math equation to say this dog got some exercise here.

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And it I imagine it tracks the heartbeat and all that other stuff.

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What if Sparky has a little itch and he's wearing his little Fitbit monitor, so to speak, and he's itching.

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Right.

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He's gonna track all those steps, but he's not really stepping.

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That's my question.

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Yeah, how accurate is that?

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Maybe I'm maybe I'm reading way too far into this, and maybe it's more for heart rate and breathing or whatever.

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I don't know.

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Not to mention Sparky might chew at it.

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Like they're gonna feel that on there and yeah, if you think of the ones that the athletes wear where it goes around their chest and it it's in the middle of their chest, but it goes around their back.

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Can't imagine any dog, including Wilma, would want that on them.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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Maybe maybe it's a good thing.

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Maybe I'm missing in missing the point, or maybe there is a good cause for that.

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Sometimes I feel like they offer this stuff and it's like, okay, how much does that cost?

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Right, yeah, exactly.

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And then it's cost for Sparky to chew it.

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Exactly.

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And then it's cost versus benefit.

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And is it just another I don't want to call it a gimmick because maybe I don't know enough about it to call it a gimmick, but I don't know.

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It just seems like there's always a way to get a pet owner to shell out more money.

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Yeah, exactly.

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I don't know.

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Maybe I'm reading it wrong.

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I also saw when we were getting ready for this week, you might have saw it, the article that talked about AI facial recognition for animals.

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Uh, I read it for dogs, but it might be for cats too, for tracking their pain.

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So I thought, is that so how does that work?

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The facial recognition where it's on the dog.

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Obviously, the dog's got to be facing.

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Is are they looking for like the ears back like a donkey?

00:20:58.079 --> 00:21:00.720
Yeah, they're probably looking for all the all the like a donkey.

00:21:01.119 --> 00:21:04.559
Do you ever see when the when a donkey's like mad or not feeling great?

00:21:04.799 --> 00:21:06.559
Yeah, the donkey's ears go back.

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And so does like a dog's.

00:21:08.160 --> 00:21:08.799
Yeah, that's what I mean.

00:21:08.960 --> 00:21:10.640
Well, how the hell would Wilma's go back?

00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:11.599
They flop down straight.

00:21:11.839 --> 00:21:16.400
Well, she can still push them back, but I guess they would make a a face if it hurts or if they're in pain.

00:21:16.720 --> 00:21:21.519
Or they do like the little whale eyes that's assigned to or like a weird licking.

00:21:21.759 --> 00:21:28.160
Sometimes AI goes so it's so advanced, and some people say it's advanced, and other people are like, this is a sham.

00:21:28.240 --> 00:21:29.680
Just go to your regular vet.

00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:30.640
They know best.

00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:32.799
Because a lot of dogs pant when they're in pain, right?

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Right, yeah.

00:21:33.599 --> 00:21:34.000
Or nervous.

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Yeah.

00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:35.519
So what if they're hot?

00:21:35.759 --> 00:21:37.200
How do you how do you tell the difference?

00:21:37.279 --> 00:21:41.440
You just match it up with other other symptoms and other parts of the physical exam.

00:21:41.519 --> 00:21:44.480
But AI can only see the There wasn't a big article on it.

00:21:44.559 --> 00:21:48.160
I did see that that was becoming more prevalent, and I just thought, how does that work?

00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:51.279
And again, is that a just ring it up, let me see your card?

00:21:51.440 --> 00:21:51.599
Right.

00:21:51.759 --> 00:21:53.839
We'll s we'll swipe the card, and guess what?

00:21:53.920 --> 00:21:54.720
No Christmas presents.

00:21:55.920 --> 00:21:57.359
You're still gonna go to the rank there, Matt.

00:21:57.599 --> 00:21:58.160
Don't get me wrong.

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I'm not against AI, I'm not against Anything that will make it easier for them to diagnose a dog and make a dog or even a cat or any animal feel better.

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I'm all for that.

00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:16.559
But what I'm not for is people that are just scraping by and they that animal is everything to them, but they're not they don't have gold bars in their cupboards to pay for this.

00:22:16.960 --> 00:22:17.519
Yeah, exactly.

00:22:17.680 --> 00:22:24.400
And a lot of times, like there's pet insurance for animals, but sometimes it's really expensive if you want the certain coverage that you can get.

00:22:24.640 --> 00:22:25.359
How does that work?

00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:35.599
So the pet insurance, say that say that we have Wilma and I she doesn't really have a lot of ailments right now, but let's say that she did and and she's being treated for this.

00:22:35.759 --> 00:22:38.799
When you go to get the pet insurance, do they do a physical on the dog?

00:22:38.880 --> 00:22:39.440
How does that work?

00:22:39.599 --> 00:22:47.039
Um, no, they wouldn't do a physical, but you'll check off like any boxes, but it's better to get pet insurance when your pet is young.

00:22:47.279 --> 00:22:47.519
Right.

00:22:47.680 --> 00:22:53.759
Because if she were to say hurt her back and we put her on pet insurance afterwards, that's a pre-existing case and they won't cover anything.

00:22:54.160 --> 00:22:55.359
Pet insurance is good, I get it.

00:22:55.440 --> 00:22:58.960
Because it only takes one big incident and it'll pay for itself, I would think.

00:22:59.119 --> 00:22:59.519
Yeah, yeah.

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But then again, you get a perfectly healthy dog.

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I don't know of any perfectly are there any perfectly healthy breeds that very rarely ever have to go to the vet?

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I don't think so.

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Other than for routine stuff, because I feel like anything that's I feel like they have to have at least one or two uh there has to be, right?

00:23:13.920 --> 00:23:26.480
Yeah, but I feel like any purebred, like look at our German shepherds, purebreds, they they had problems, autoimmune deficiencies and all of this other stuff that comes with it, and then it czar became a cash cow.

00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:31.599
Literally, yeah, and not bringing money in, it's cash cow going the other way.

00:23:31.759 --> 00:23:32.480
Right, exactly.

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But at that point, we would do anything, and we just yeah, it was a money pit.

00:23:36.160 --> 00:23:38.319
But I just wondered if there's uh any type of animal.

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I mean, cats, you would think cats would be very low maintenance, but they have their problems too.

00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:43.519
Exactly, yeah.

00:23:43.839 --> 00:23:45.759
They're low maintenance until they're not, you know.

00:23:45.920 --> 00:23:46.559
That's exactly right.

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Because cats hide their problems very well until they can't anymore.

00:23:50.160 --> 00:23:56.960
Diving into topics like that could be like a whole slippery slope, but right I guess when in doubt, we'll go to the two and two.

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It's time for our two and two segment.

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For every bad story, there has to be a good one, and we will discuss two good animal stories in the news and two not so good animal stories in the news.

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This first one's out of Connecticut, and you're not gonna like this story at all.

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A Virginia man was arrested after a viral video shows a violent dog assault, and this one actually has news coverage.

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A man is facing charges in Glastonbury for alleged dog abuse and domestic violence against his former girlfriend, Michael Gershey, turned himself into police today after video surfaced on social media showing him allegedly abusing a dog.

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I can't tell you how many domestic violence people that get arrested also have a history of violence against animals.

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There's so much of that going on.

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That's interesting.

00:24:54.640 --> 00:24:55.359
I don't know what it is.

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If you're just it's not just that you're violent, you're violent with everything.

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Right.

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Especially, let's just say it's a man.

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A way to get back at a female, very easy, is to hurt their pet.

00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:05.599
Yeah, I can see that.

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That's ugh.

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News aights Bob Wilson was in court as Gershey faced a judge.

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We want to start off by telling you that video is hard to watch.

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It comes with a warning, and also that's why the judge says he set the bail so high,$275,000 because of the circumstances surrounding this case.

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Brittany Kelly says this happened in her Classberry home about a year and a half ago while Michael Gurchie was living there.

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Oh my god.

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We edited the video and took out the parts that are hard to watch.

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In the moment, my heart broke for the dog, but my soul went into survival mode.

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Good lord.

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As a mother seeing this level of violence in front of the children is sickening.

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While Gurchie was in court today, so was this army.

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They were watching.

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I don't know why.

00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:56.079
To see an animal slammed to the ground, um, it's just horrifying.

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Seriously.

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Yeah, so to paint the picture, obviously people listening can't see it.

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It shows this guy in a living room.

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I don't know, it's some kind of camera in the living room.

00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:05.599
What kind of dog do you think that is?

00:26:05.680 --> 00:26:06.400
It's a bigger one.

00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:08.799
Yeah, it looks just like a uh pity mix.

00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:11.440
Oh, it's a white and brownish looking dog.

00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:15.680
So he's kicking it and he punches it, and then and they're not showing the whole thing.

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They like cut it off.

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This clip, obviously, luckily, they're stopping it.

00:26:19.440 --> 00:26:22.480
But then he picks it up over his head and slams it to the ground.

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Good lord.

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Gertie's attorney says this is only part of the story.

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And now this clown is in court and he's got these big alligator tears.

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Crocodile, not alligator tears.

00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:38.480
Crocodile tears streaming down his face.

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Boo-hoo.

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People see the full video of the city.

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This is his defense attorney.

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Uh, there's a cry for help from the people in the room, and Mr.

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Gurchy comes in to separate the two dogs and stop them.

00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:54.559
Okay, sir.

00:26:54.640 --> 00:26:55.519
I get what you're saying.

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You have to defend the client.

00:26:58.960 --> 00:27:07.519
But at what point when you separate the dog fight, so you say, do you think it's okay for that guy to pick this dog up over his head and slam it to the ground?

00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:08.160
Exactly.

00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:12.400
Because part of the video, of course, if there he's saying there's more to a video, and I will say that.

00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:17.519
Anytime you see on social media a small snippet of a video, that never tells the whole story.

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And I understand that.

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However, I didn't see that dog going after him in this.

00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:21.920
No, not at all.

00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:26.400
And to pick that dog up over his head in front of his children and his wife, come on.

00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:29.759
And that's not even gonna stop a dog fighting like wounding each other.

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Gurchie broke out in tears today after he should judge, not only for the animal cruelty, but a violation of a protective order.

00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:44.079
He has several other court cases pending, including illegal firearms in a car, risk of injury to a minor, and domestic violence against his former girlfriend.

00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:44.799
Yeah.

00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:51.039
So not only is he abusing his girlfriend physically, he's got an order protection, so he shouldn't even be there anyway.

00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:51.440
Right.

00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:53.920
And then lost in all of this are the kids.

00:27:54.079 --> 00:27:54.240
Yeah.

00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:56.000
Well, and the dogs and the dogs.

00:27:56.079 --> 00:27:56.160
Right.

00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:56.960
Uh obviously.

00:27:57.119 --> 00:27:59.039
But I'm saying the kids have to witness this.

00:27:59.200 --> 00:27:59.359
Yeah.

00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:01.279
That's stuff kids are never gonna forget.

00:28:01.599 --> 00:28:01.920
Never.

00:28:02.079 --> 00:28:02.960
It's burned in their minds.

00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:05.599
What people saw in this video with the dogs.

00:28:05.920 --> 00:28:07.599
Is this the victim or the wife?

00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:08.240
I'm not sure.

00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:11.680
Was exactly why it happened to me in November of 2025.

00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:13.599
Almost every Wait a minute.

00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:15.039
Um that's what happened to her?

00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:16.559
As far as getting slammed?

00:28:16.799 --> 00:28:19.599
Picked up and slammed, or just kind of kicked and punched, or what?

00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:21.119
Either way, she's gotta get away from this guy.

00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:23.039
It sounds like there's an order protection in place.

00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:23.759
He shouldn't have been there.

00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:36.960
Domestic violence case, we see um the person started out with animal abuse and just escalated and escalated and escalated until you know finally they finally end up harming people.

00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:38.079
So I hope they say it.

00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:41.119
One thing I haven't seen is what is the condition of the dogs.

00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:41.440
Yeah.

00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:43.279
Even though they're fighting with each other, I get that.

00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:43.839
I understand that.

00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:48.640
I have been part of trying to break up dogs that are literally Do you know the best way to do it?

00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:52.160
Well, in my line of work, and I've done it, was a taser.

00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:52.799
Yeah, oh yeah.

00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:58.000
And I didn't want to hurt the dogs, but they had a baby carriage with a baby in it trapped underneath it.

00:28:58.240 --> 00:28:58.720
Oh gosh.

00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:00.799
And they were they were actively fighting.

00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:04.240
They weren't attacking the baby, but the baby was all hung up in that.

00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:04.640
Right.

00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:06.559
They could redirect onto the baby too.

00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:10.400
And the taser didn't hurt the dog at all, but it did get them to stop and it ran off.

00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:13.200
So that was that was like last second.

00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:16.400
Because it you put your hand in there, they'll slice and dice your hands up.

00:29:16.640 --> 00:29:20.319
And and I just didn't want anything to happen to that baby in the stroller at the time.

00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:21.680
So for me that worked.

00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:22.240
But I don't know.

00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:26.880
If you pick the back legs up and wheelbarrow both dogs, they get distracted.

00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:27.680
I'm not even kidding.

00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:28.640
We learned it in school.

00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:29.200
Really?

00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:30.000
Yeah.

00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:32.160
I gotta be honest.

00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:38.000
You if you yeah, I know you have, you hear these dog fights, they are like going out.

00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:40.319
It sounds like two grizzly bears.

00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:44.799
And I just don't think the first thing I would think of is go wheelbarrow.

00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:46.079
I know.

00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:50.319
His next court date will be in April.

00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:51.680
My God, that was terrible.

00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:52.480
That's awful.

00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:56.880
But you know, it kills me that now he's gonna stand in front of the judge and he's been charged with all these charges.

00:29:57.039 --> 00:29:57.359
Right.

00:29:57.519 --> 00:30:02.240
And then he watches himself and what he really did, and now you're gonna cry.

00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:02.559
Right.

00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:04.160
With the big crocodile tears.

00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:07.119
I know I said alligator tears, but big crocodile tears, come on.

00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:08.880
Ridiculous.

00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:12.720
Let's switch gears and go to a better one.

00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:14.559
Summit County, Colorado.

00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:26.640
After surviving 43 days alone in the wilderness of Summit County, Colorado, a dog was overcome with joy upon being reunited with his owner, leaping, jumping, and a heartwarming display of happiness.

00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:34.640
That moment was all caught on camera, capturing the joy and the relief of not only Rocky, but also his owner as they were reunited.

00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:40.960
So the owner's squat down here looks like a I don't know what it is, but they're bringing the dog into him.

00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:42.400
Oh my god.

00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:43.440
Actually, I like it.

00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:44.559
The dog's wearing a t-shirt.

00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:46.160
A yellow.

00:30:46.720 --> 00:30:49.680
Oh, he's knocking the owner down on he's sitting on his butt now.

00:30:50.480 --> 00:30:52.240
And he's licking him and jumping all over him.

00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:53.680
Look at his tail go.

00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:55.039
Yeah, that's warm.

00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:03.200
He's like daddy, I know he's never daddy.

00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:04.480
That's awesome.

00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:18.880
43 days though, the 10-year-old dog went missing while its owner, Stephen Ma, MAA, was making a cross-country trip from New Jersey to California, stopping in Summit County with plans to go skiing.

00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:26.160
Shortly after dropping his dog off at a pet sitter in the area, Rocky wiggled free from his harness and took off.

00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:27.119
Oh no.

00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:32.880
They searched for Rocky for hours before discovering Summit Lost Pet Rescue when they called for help.

00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:37.759
A team of volunteers began their work by setting up cameras and scent stations.

00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:40.079
Which that must be just something to eat, you would think.

00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:42.960
Again, you're gonna end up catching catching a possum or something.

00:31:43.279 --> 00:31:50.319
And then on day 43, a neighbor spotted Rocky on her ring camera and notified Summit County Animal Control and Shelter.

00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:58.640
They assessed the situation, placed more set items out, and the team carefully repositioned the trap and successfully caught Rocky that evening.

00:31:59.119 --> 00:31:59.680
That's awesome.

00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:01.839
That's a good that's way better than the guy slamming the door.

00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:03.279
Yeah, seriously.

00:32:04.319 --> 00:32:05.920
Again, we'll switch gears.

00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:07.920
Island County, Washington.

00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:12.000
A man faces animal cruelty charges after the death of two cats.

00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:12.799
Here we go.

00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:13.839
Yep, here we go.

00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:24.799
According to the Island County Sheriff's Office in Washington State, Oak Harbor police were called to Best Friends Veterinary Clinic after two ten-month-old cats were brought in and had died under suspicious circumstances.

00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:35.440
Authorities say 25-year-old Oak Harbor resident brought the cats in, which belonged to his live-in girlfriend, to the clinic after he reportedly found them injured and unresponsive.

00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:37.039
Yeah, stick with that story.

00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:37.680
Seriously.

00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:45.920
He told police that after his girlfriend left for work that morning, he heard a crash and the sounds of cats squealing, gagging, and struggling.

00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:48.559
He said he got up and found them dead in the living room.

00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:50.240
So then you bring him in.

00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:50.640
Right.

00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:59.519
During the investigation, the Oak Harbor Police Department determined that the couple's residence was actually within Island County Sheriff's Office jurisdiction.

00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:05.839
And an Island County Sheriff's Office Animal Control Officer, say that fast, took over the case.

00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:19.279
An initial examination showed that both cats had rolled pieces of foil cat toy lodged in their throats, which the veterinary noted was highly unusual for two healthy cats to choke on the same toy at the same time.

00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:22.079
This led the veterinarian to suspect foul play.

00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:24.400
After a necropsy, that's how you say that, right?

00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:24.720
Yep.

00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:30.799
Necropsy necropsy, which is essentially it's an autopsy for an animal, was conducted.

00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:44.720
The veterin noted blood in the cat's abdominal cavities, fractures and lacerations to the liver, and hemorrhages on the hearts, spleens, kidneys, lungs, and brains, all indicating blunt force trauma.

00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:46.880
Signs of asphyxiation were also present.

00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:47.680
Good lord.

00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:49.039
Yeah, this guy's a peach.

00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:50.240
You know what I say to that?

00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:52.079
Seriously.

00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:54.960
Get this guy off the streets.

00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:56.799
Good Lord.

00:33:57.759 --> 00:34:02.400
Just on March 26th, the 25-year-old was taken into custody without incident.

00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:03.839
Of course he's not going to put up a fight.

00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:05.119
He's already done all this stuff.

00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:09.760
And booked into the Island County jail on two counts of first degree animal cruelty.

00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:10.719
You know, I don't get it.

00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:12.320
What's with the cat toys in the throat?

00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:14.239
Try to make it look like they choked?

00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:15.280
Good lord, I think.

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On the same toy.

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Doesn't make sense.

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None of that makes sense.

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I just couldn't imagine.

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Oh my god.

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I don't know what's I don't know what is with people in the I say this every episode when we do one of these.

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For a person to think that, you know what?

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An innocent animal, that's where I'm gonna flex out on and I'm gonna hurt these animals like this.

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They can't even I don't like people like that.

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I just don't.

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Well, how about a cat named Sam that got reunited with an owner after 11 years apart?

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11 years.

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How long does a cat live?

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Like 15, 18 years.

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Man, that's a long time to be missing for a cat.

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And then you wonder after 11 years, we've said this before, at least I have.

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How are they gonna they they do, but how would you recognize I would hope that the animal recognizes you after 11 years?

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Right, exactly.

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Yeah.

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Where the hell have you been?

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Why don't you come and get me?

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This particular case went viral with over two million Instagram views.

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And the cat was reunited via a microchip in Charleston, South Carolina.

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At the Charleston Animal Society, Sam the cat was reunited with his owner after he'd gone missing for 11 years.

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That's crazy.

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Sam's owner, Jennifer Ravenel, adopted Sam in 2011, but two years later, a dog spooked him and he just disappeared from her Hollywood home.

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She said she searched and searched and asked everyone, but nobody saw Sam.

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Sam's story then went viral and was first shared with more than two million views on Instagram.

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Ravenel gets emotional as she sees her beloved cat for the first time in more than a decade.

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Gosh, that's crazy.

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You excited?

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I am.

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Is this your kitty cat?

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Sam, Sam, the kitty cat man.

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Oh my god, I missed you so much.

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Oh, Sam.

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11 years my cat's been missing.

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I'm just so excited.

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Sam's just chilling.

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Sam's just loafing.

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He's gilling.

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Oh, he looks raggedy, though.

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They gotta brush his hair.

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Sam, Sam.

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Where were you, buddy?

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What are your last memories with Sam?

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Poor Sam.

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Um, I had another cat, Cotton, that was all white, and um, we just he was my lap kitty.

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And uh, and and Cotton was not.

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So he was the one that was always in the house, and and and just followed me everywhere I went around the yard.

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We live on a little farm, so he was always at the barn.

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He went everywhere I went.

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Yeah, I can tell he's recognizing, he's trying to smell you and all.

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What's today like for you?

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Today it has been so hard to be at work today, because I was waiting for the two o'clock when I got off and I raced here, but then I've been telling everybody, you're not gonna believe what happened to me.

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I got a call from Charleston Animal Society, and I thought they were playing a joke, but they said they had my cat.

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I said, There's no way he's been gone 11 years.

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They said, Yeah, he's chipped with your name on him.

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Wow, that's awesome.

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And you've talked about microchipping in the past and how important that is.

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I wish the article said on how they found Sam.

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Like where was he to check for the microchip.

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But the good thing is they have him.

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She said that everything's going great since Sam's been back home.

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He hasn't wanted to go back outside.

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I don't blame him.

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An 11-year hike is pretty impressive.

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He is mostly staying at the foot of her bed, she said.

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That's cute.

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That's really good.

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It also says the reunion was only possible because Sam had a microchip.

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Getting a microchip should be on the top of every pet owner's checklist.

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The Charleston Animal Society Vice President and Chief Operating Officer, Aldwin Roman said, Imagine that for a title.

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Charleston Animal Society Vice President, Chief Operating Officer.

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That's a title.

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You know, I'm looking at the time, and I think that will do it for episode five of Dad and the Vet Tech.

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Our next episode will drop next Sunday at 9 a.m.

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Eastern.

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We'd love it if you came back.

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Check us out at dadandhevettech.com.

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Thanks for listening.

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And until next time, please give your pets some hugs from us.

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Until next time, treats, trust, and talent.

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I like it.

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Scrubs off, shift over.

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See you guys next time.

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Thanks.